Изучаем английский. И только в данной теме!

[Alex11223]

Сообщение от сфинкс

утверждающие якобы учат английский
могли бы дублировать свои сообщения
в данной теме по-английски

It was tried many times here and in other similar communities, usually it doesn't work well and stops quickly for some reason.

And it's not really needed, it's not difficult to find an English-only community. They will not judge you for poor grammar.
StackOverflow, reddit, chats, open source communities, ...

Could be even "dangerous" because people without good knowledge of the language may create their own incorrect dialect based on their first language, like "Which clock? 10 watches."

[Вадим Мошев]

Сообщение от Alex11223

And it's not really needed, it's not difficult to find an English-only community.
StackOverflow, reddit, chats, open source communities

I think he minds the sites intended for English learning. www.italki.com — is one of them. Truth be told that application is the only thing I can remember at this momemt. Evidently there are many applications like italki. By the way, it's possible to train many languages, not only English. Yotube has a chanel by Canadian guy who learns Russian with italki. Thanks to him I know about italki.

Сообщение от Alex11223

like "Which clock? 10 watches."

No. He said, 'HOW MUCH WATCH?'

[Alar]

Как читать по английски

На примере сообщения выше, как я прочитал

Сообщение от Alex11223

other similar communities

Сообщение от Alex11223

it doesn't work

Сообщение от Alex11223

poor grammar.

Сообщение от Alex11223

it's not really needed

Сообщение от Alex11223

create their own incorrect dialect based

Alex11223, я что-то упустил? )

Всё, и это технический текст.
Обычный текст про то как там в африке негры голодают, можно прочитать как африка негры голодный ). обычно текст 2-3 тыс слов, который нафик не нужен. В основном любой текст, или то что вам льют в уши на английском это либо propaganda либо adv, advertising. Если говорят быстро и не понятно - пошли нафик, если просто что-то вам говорят - тоже пошли нафик. ) Если вы хотите что-то спросить или сказать, то тут вы пойдёте нафик. Если достанете кеш, то и на ломанном английском вас поймут ) Если вы на работе - то пусть письма пишут по е-майл, любой другой контакт на работе вреден ) Всё что сказано в разговорном жанре к делу не пришьёшь, аналогичный подход должен быть и на русском в России. ) С русским как раз таки сложнее, потому что трудно игнорировать, то что понимаешь, а делать это нужно )

Сообщение от Вадим Мошев

He

Who her?

in USA wery bad educations, and many dialects, Like Ukrains in russia ) Так-то very вместо wery правильнее, но и мой первый вариант допустим )

Сообщение от Alar

Like

Это кстати из SQL знаю ))

[Вадим Мошев]

Сообщение от Alar

Who her?

имеется в виду анекдот (для усиления эффекта комичности английская речь записывается кириллицей).

На улицах Лондона встречаются двое:
— хау мэни (мач) вач?
— тен вач
— ту мач?
— ту хум хау.
— ю МГИМО финишд?
— аск.

Подразумевается такой диалог:
— Который час?
— 10 часов.
— Так поздно?
— Кому как.
— Вы МГИМО окончили?
— Спрашиваете (в значении "конечно")

[Alar]

Сообщение от Вадим Мошев

финишд?

Ага, типа я юмор не догнал, держите тогда от меня пример с финишем.
финиш - это в турецком отеле - хотел финиш )

Сообщение от Вадим Мошев

— аск.

Если без шуток отзыв должен быть шуе - sure , или ов коусе - of course

ask me
satisfaction
))

Push me and then just touch me
Till I can get my satisfaction, satisfaction

читать маны по методу Get )

Сообщение от Alar

Till

А тут лучше бы Untill, иначе не откомилится )

[Alex11223]

Сообщение от Вадим Мошев

I think he minds the sites intended for English learning. www.italki.com — is one of them

They are great, but not free and you need to choose a teacher, schedule a lesson, etc.
Instead of that you can simply use "normal" websites/chats to discuss things you are interested in. Such as a subreddit or a Discord/Slack/IRC channel. There are also English-only (international) subreddits/channels/forums dedicated to learning English.

btw you probably wanted to say "means", not "minds".

[Вадим Мошев]

Сообщение от Alex11223

They are great, but not free and you need to choose a teacher, schedule a lesson, etc.

Yes, they are. But you don't have to search for non-free teacher. There are a few ways to start learn language for free. All the italki users could be devided into some groups:
1. Community Teacher. The most expensive way to start learn language. They are professional teachers. Their skills are proved by certificates;
2. community Tutors. They don't have any certificates. They just are ready to chat with you for money, train your skills, fix the mistakes and so on;
3. Language partners. You and you langPartner will participate in language exchange, i. g., your learn his/her language learn your language and he/she learns yours. You teach and train each other;
4. [I don't know how to name this users group. Let they be friends or interlocutors]. I'm talking about the users who are searching for foreign friend or just ready to help you learn their language for free.
5. forum. The parts of an application where you can discuss any topic or issue. Of course, each forum has rules you have to follow to;
6. notebook. The parts of an application where you can train to write texts. The others can fix mistakes you made and explain the rules you broke;
7. questions. This unit allows ask any question or discuss issues about languange you learn, e. g., terms, grammar, articles and so on.

1 and 2 are non-free, the others are free
.
Truth be told, it's really hard to find language partners on italki. When I messaged to them they didn't answer. Theere are a lot of reasons why they ignore you messages.

Сообщение от Alex11223

Instead of that you can simply use "normal" websites/chats to discuss things you are interested in. Such as a subreddit or a Discord/Slack/IRC channel.

Not bad suggestions. I should use them. But how about telegram channels? Are there these ones?

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btw you probably wanted to say "means", not "minds".

Maybe you're right. When I've used that word I wanted to say 'Talking about'.
Loook, when you didn't undestand your interlocutor you can ask, 'What are talking about'. But you can ask, 'What do you mind'. So I decided than 'talking about' is equal to 'mind' and I've uses that word. Maybe I was mistaken.

[Alex11223]

Сообщение от Вадим Мошев

But how about telegram channels? Are there these ones?

Of course there are, it's quite popular in other countries too.
But Telegram channels are read-only, for chatting with other people you need to look for Telegram groups.

Сообщение от Вадим Мошев

But you can ask, 'What do you mind'.

No, "do/would you mind" is used when asking for permission, such as "Do you mind if I sleep on your couch?" (and "Yes" means that it's not okay https://rakh.im/to-mind/).

[Вадим Мошев]

Сообщение от Alex11223

But Telegram channels are read-only,

Yes, telegram groups. That's what I wanted to say.

Сообщение от Alex11223

No, "do/would you mind" is used when asking for permission, such as "Do you mind if I sleep on your couch?"

Thank you very much. Now I've realized I was wrong.

[Black Fregat]

Извините, не вижу смысла читать английские потуги русскоязычных людей на русскоязычном форуме, куда не заходит ни один носитель языка. Любая ошибка не исправляется вовремя, тиражируется, отпечатывается в мозгу и влияет на дальнейшее изучение